Nervul splanhnic( grila 2014)

Category: BiologieNervul splanhnic( grila 2014)
Dan asked 8 years ago

La capitolul fizio intrebarea 737 spune ca : Inervatia aparatului digestiv este realizata de – Fibre din nervii splanhnici ce fac sinapsa intr.un ganglion previsceral.. Daca a facut sinapsa in ganglion , nu inseamna ca fibra nervului splanhnic se termina? Si se continua fibra din ggl?  

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9 Answers
Eliza answered 8 years ago

da, ai dreptate, dar explicatia pe care am primit-o la pregatirile de simulare a fost ca in cazul nervilor splanhnici si fibra preggl si cea postggl apartin nervului, deci e corect sa spui ca inervatia structurii respectiv o face nervul. Desi e diferit de parasimpatic, de exemplu, unde nu e corect sa pui fibra preggl la inervatie (decat daca ajunge in ggl intraparietal si atunci e si preggl) . Concluzie: cand ai parasimpatic, te gandesti daca sinapsa se face in ggl juxtavisceral (caz in care fibra preggl nu se ia ca inervatie) sau in ggl intramural (se pune si fibra preggl la inervatie). si la nervii splanhnici pui ambele. Asta e logica “cluj-admitere” . In facultate o sa iei ambele fibre in orice situatie

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Dan answered 8 years ago

Multumesc mult. Cautam pe net si nu gaseam explicatia si era cam frustrant. La parasimpatic era logic (dubla inervatie la intramurali) dar chiar nu avea sens.  
 Inca o intrebare , cum ati trecut peste neatentie in timpul examenului? Nu mi.e frica de materie ci de greseli stupide … Nu stiu cum sa abordez situatia :))

admin Eliza replied 8 years ago

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Dan answered 8 years ago

Multumesc 🙂

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Dan answered 8 years ago

La o alta intrebare spune ca sinapsa neuroefectoare se realizeaza de catre fibre:

  • Ale n vagi
  • Ale n splanhnici
  • Ale n pelvici
  • Originea in lantul ggl paravertebral
  • Cu orig in ggl jixtamed si intramurali

Stiu ca ultimele 2 sunt corecte.. Dar de ce a 2 .a afirmatie nu este corecta? Din ce scrie mai sus am inteles ca se foloseste denumirea de nerv splanhnic si pentru fibra preggl si postggl. Sau tocmai din acest motiv nu este corecta? Pentru ca inglobeaza si fibra preggl care nu e neuroefectorie?  
 

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Gandacel answered 8 years ago

Am gasit si eu o alta grila in admiterea din 2014(grila 26 din varianta 2), care nu considera adevarat faptul ca nervul splanhnic ar avea si fibre postggl.
“Alegeti afirmatiile adevarate privind inervatia stomacului[…] E. este asigurata si de fibre postganglionare incluse in structura nervului splanhnic mare
Ca urmare, ne poate clarifica cineva aceasta problema a nervului splanhnic?
Multumesc!
 

admin Eliza replied 8 years ago

Aveti dreptate, fibra postggl nu e in structura nervului splanhnic, imi pare rau de confuzia creata. Deci, nervii spl. Contin doar fibra preggl, dar totusi , in cazul organelor invervate prin ei, e corect sa spui ca atat fibra preggl (care apartine nervului) cat si cea postggl inerveaza. Asta e logica dupa care functioneaza deocamdata admiterea. In ce priveste problema cu sinapsa neuroefectorie, doar fb postggl participa la astfel de sinapsa

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Dan answered 8 years ago

Probabil pentru ca a spus “Splanhnic mare“ is pierde intelesul de fibra postganglionara… Pe cand denumirea generala de “splanhnic“ are ambele intelesuri: fibra postggl si preggl.

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Gandacel answered 8 years ago

Poate nu am inteles eu, dar in grila de la admitere 2014, spune” inervatia stomacului” ,deci dupa cum ai zis tu  “in cazul organelor inervate prin ei, e corect sa spui ca atat fibrele postggl, cat si cele postggl inerveaza”,  intrebarea ar trebui sa fie adevatata…am inteles gresit? 

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Gandacel answered 8 years ago

Cred ca am inteles gresit. Iata la ce concluzie am ajuns: in primul rand fibra postggl nu se numeste nerv splanhnic (mare/mic), iar in al doilea rand ambele inerveaza organele efectoare, doar ca prima , cea preggl, se numeste nerv splanhnic, iar cea postggl , doar postggl. Asta e? 

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Gandacel answered 8 years ago

Astfel, intrebarea era gresita deoarece zice “fibre postggl incluse in structura nervului splanhnic” ceea ce e fals. 

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